Para los que aùn no se enteraron, algùn genio del marketing de las inversiones en emerging markets acuñó la sigla VISTA para designar a mercados emergentes con fuertes oportunidades de apreciaciòn: Vietnam, Indonesia, South Africa, Turkey y Argentina.
"VISTA brings these emerging markets to a new level in the asset class debate," said Paresh Upadhyaya, a global currency manager at Putnam Investments in Boston, with holdings in emerging markets. "VISTA is quite a catchy acronym and it may very well mean that we are beginning to enter into a second wave of mass cross-border and mass cross-asset investment into this group of smaller emerging market countries," said Upadhyaya"
El tipo es claro al decir que lo clave es que la sigla es bien catchy
"But given the returns and the fundamentals of some of the VISTA economies, instead of a second wave, this may just be a second-tier group." Returns in VISTA countries have yet to reach levels that justify the higher risk and volatility inherent to their local markets, strategists said.
Bueno, si con esta manito de afuera no ganamos algunas inversionas de esas bien bobas que siguen olas para no quedarse afuera:
Wardle added. "There's a feeling among many investors that they have to be in exotic places if they are to make money, especially if it seems everybody else is doing it. It's an easy marketing ploy. But not everybody has the depth of knowledge some of these markets require in times of crisis."
Pero, siempre hay un pero:
"Most VISTA countries are prone to volatility, speculation and political risk, he said. "VISTA countries have very little in common and it just shows how hungry people are for yields,"
Aunque:
""But there's a reason why returns are higher: that's because risks are also higher and when you are competing with Brazil and Russia, where the local markets are very sophisticated, I'm not sure if the trade pays off." Shankar said his favorite emerging market is still Brazil, but among VISTA countries Vietnam is still the country with the highest potential.
Que prefieran a Brasil vaya y pase, pero que estemos detràs de Vietnam es casi insultante....
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Es una sanata tan grande como las de los BRICs... pero ojalá que prenda! Ya estamos de moda a nivel turismo, que no es poco.
greedy is good estimado, y esto es solo una muestra
despues llegamos al moral hazard y en realidad me parece que en vez de VISTA habria que sugerirle cambiar el nombre a TIMBA
Coincido en que es una sanata, pero el mundo està lleno de suckers que invierten siguiendo este tipo de modas....preguntales a los brasileros!
TIMBA: Turquìa, Indonesia,Malasia, Brasil y Argentina
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
No se me ocurrio
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
Bravo
Ahora hay que conseguir una nota en WSJ para evaluar el patron de desarrollo del grupo TIMBA y evitar, por sobre todas las cosas que los analistas argentinos se rian
me hace acordar a la Mitsubishi Pajero
Te digo que si lo empezamos a mover via blogs y discussion forum no va a faltar el analista goma que lo defina como un emerging investment trend y termine armando un indice.....
A veces me divierto pensando cuan lejos puede llegar cualquier pavada en la medida en que tenga un nombre pegadizo y alguien escriba un opinion paper con olor a serio
Postino, se podría hacer el intento...No faltarán economistas de bcos de inversión deseosos de explotar un nombre así.
Pero presiento que TIMBA no tiene el potencial de los otros...ja
Saludos
comparto los derechos de autor con ud
habria q empezar con una carta a The Economist
Te juro que la escribo; si me la publican, directamente me dedico a escribir panegíricos sobre Cristina
Tomo la pauesta y pago almuerzo, si llega a salir brindamos a la salud de TIMBA Podemos cambiarla por Turkmenistan la 1ra, suena mas exotico
Felizmente empezamos con A, vocal reiterada y presente en una mayoría de siglas posibles. Avisen cuando salgan los bonos TIMBA, eh
Postino
Genial, hasta se pueden hacer papers sobre la "nueva" economia.
Crecimientos esperados del 8% por los proximos 20 años.
Como el Japon de los 70.
Un abrazo
PD, Si necesitan un taliban que critique avisen
En cualquier momento empiezo a hacer posts patafìsicos sobre las economìas TIMBA
Keep tuned
Postino, hagalo circular uno con pinta de serio y lo correguimos (diriamos enhanced) entre aca y lo mandamos a The Economist, sigo diciendo, pago el almuerzo si lo publican
Un ligero cambio
Turkmenistan, Indonesia, Malasia, Venezuela, Argentina
TIMVA - Sonara medio cacofonico pero da justo todo, es mas hay inversiones cruzadas y compañias de uno y otro pais inviertiendo ahora o en el pasado
Venezuela -> Argentina
Argentina -> Turkmenistan, Venezuela
Malasia -> Argentina
Indonesia <-> Malasia
Culto a la personalidad, varios casos
Crisis Malaya, Argentina, Indonesia, etc
Saludos
Ayj
La I podría ser Irán, con Chávez como hilo conductor, pero no creo que lo acepten.
Un abrazo
Lo de Iran ya serìa demasiado manolo....
Pero se puede hacer un caso sobre paìses con recursos naturales abundantes y algùn problemilla en la calidad de sus gobernates que se expresa en un elevado sigma cuadrado de los retornos a las inversiones.
TIMVA: si usted quiere algo màs que retornos elevados; si sabe que el desmanejo genera oportunidades, TIMVA es para usted
Cuando invertir en BRICs le resulte pesado, dedicase a TIMVA.
Cardiacos abstenerse
Listo, afanamos algun reportaje de Templeton, le ponemos coomo copete eso y ya
ahora si, para the economist debe ser algo con mas numeros, no muchos, total es de Power Point
Muchachos, ya parecemos los personajes del "Pendulo de Foucault".
Preparamos la carnada y esperamos que piquen los "iniciados".
Un abrazo
Y, habria que conseguir algunas estadisticas varias para darle color
sugerencias?
Comparar el crecim gdp de bricks versus timvas....con eso caen bastantes giles
Despues mencionar rec nat abundantes y democracia (sin entrar en detalles)
si, habria que hacerlo desde el tequila, para dar dea de serie "seria" y larga, y depende como de del Nasdaq (asi enganchamos la caida del dot com)
elpeso de cada uno para la cartera? en funcion de que?
Arrancaria con un peso basado en el GDP en US$ nominales, "para aprovechar las oportunidades de apreciaciòn basadas en las fluctuaciones del tipo de cambio de estos paìses"
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